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Talk Turkey 1

Isaac Hayes (1995)"I didn't do it to cause any kind of trend or anything, I was just comfortable with it. I had cut my hair in a certain kind of hairstyle that I didn't like, and in order to get it back to the way it was before I had cut it, I had to first to cut it all off. When I had cut it all off, it felt good and I just decided to keep it that way."
Isaac Hayes on how he first came to shave his head and why he kept it. (July '95)

"He started offering us huge sums of money. The more money you make for a company, the more power you have. Isaac was able to offer a lot more money to Michael and Ben than they were making with the Bar-Kays. Couple that with the problems we were having.. Stax didn't envision the Bar-Kays as a band. To them, a band backed up people who sung, a band didn't become artists themselves. But, yeah, Isaac took what we were trying do to, even to our look. He went on to put the same leotards on, the same chains. Just think back now. He had never done that, not until he saw that album cover (Black Rock), until he saw what the Bar-Kays were doing. He got everything he could from the Bar-Kays. He got Ben, Michael, Willie.. And when we got replacements that he liked, he'd buy them off too! (laughs)."
Larry Dodson of the Bar-Kays on the departure of the group's drummer Willie Hall, guitarist Michael Toles and trumpeter Ben Cauley, who, in the early 70's joined Isaac Hayes' back-up band. (1997)

"No, I haven't recorded a new album since 'The Woman I Am'. Why? Because I wasn't ready to (laughs). I'm not one of those people who releases an album every minute, you know? I do it when I'm ready, that's all. And I think that's best. In that way things are better. I have, by the way, recorded an entirely new album over the last couple of years and I have it on ice. I just used five of the new titles on my latest album 'Epiphany', because I needed five new cuts for that. But I decided to do this because I've been in the business for 25 years and I said that instead of releasing a new album, I'll release something that talks about what I've been doing through the years and what I'm doing now."
Chaka Khan on why she chose to put out "Epiphany" instead of an album of all new tracks. (November '96)

Adina Howard (1997)"The thing is, God created sex and that’s how we all got here. We did not come from the stork flying over and just dropping us off at the door. I don’t understand how people, in certain religions or whatever, can get so highly upset, when that’s how we all got here. I think it’s a lack of understanding in their own beliefs and their morals."
Adina Howard on the criticism she's received for her outspokenness about sex. (July '97)

"There are a lot of assholes in this business and that's one of the reasons why I don't have very many friends in it."
Chaka Khan on artists who, after they make it, ignore their fans by refusing to talk to the media (November '96)

"Well, number one I was too light. I know my pictures didn't show it, but I'm a very fair complexioned black person and there was not a big market for black models at the time. And when they did decide to hire black models, they wanted the world to know 'we have a BLACK model' (laughs). I was not dark enough."
Millie Jackson on why she gave up the modeling career she had before taking up singing in the sixties. (November '96)

Clarence Reid by his 'piana' 1976"If you listen to 'Nobody But You, Babe', that was (came out at) the same time that the Isley Brothers had 'It's Your Thing'. We ended up in a lawsuit about that, but we won the lawsuit because I had written 'Nobody But You Babe' and recorded it first, in 1964. It didn't come out good, I recorded at Franklin Nellis' on a two-track studio, you know, your band on one track and your voice on the other, so it didn't come out that good. And the Isley Brothers heard it and it was so much like 'It's Your Thing' that they swore I stole it from them. But I was able to prove that not only did I not steal it from them, I had written and recorded the song five years before their record came out! I had just re-cut it in 1969. The lawyers took most of the money cause it drug on and on, but we won the lawsuit on that."
Clarence "Blowfly" Reid tells the story of his first hit single "Nobody But You Babe", issued on Alston/Atlantic in 1969. (1991)

"I'm not married. But I've got eleven children. They range from seven, the next is twenty and all above. No, they're not in the business. I've got one daughter, Heather, she sings and dances with James Brown. And I have son, Isaac III, who's gonna be into music."
Isaac Hayes on his marital status. (July '95)

Millie "the Queen of Extreme" Jackson '95. Photo by Darrell Lane"Uuuh, I've broken my ass a couple of times.. I was just dancing and I slipped, that's how that happened. And I rolled off into the pit, the first week of the play (Younger Man, Older Woman, the comedy play/musical Millie starred in and toured with in 93-94). I rolled off the stage! There's a scene where I'm going crazy and I'm rolling around on the floor and I rolled and got disorientated as to where I was on the stage. So I rolled backwards a couple of times and I rolled forwards and... 'BAM!'. Right into the pit, on top of the musicians and everything (laughs).
Millie Jackson on the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to her on stage (November '96)

"I'm really sick of that song. But because I've had to, I've learned to live with it."
Chaka Khan on "I Feel For You". (November '96)

"The record company didn't like 'Black Rock' when we did it. Had they liked it, it would have been a hugely successful album and Earth, Wind & Fire would never have come into being. They used the formula that we used on 'Black Rock' to establish their band. If you think about it, you'll notice the similarities. A lot of horn work, big productions, where the music was as much part of the song as the singers. It was all intertwined. We were pushing for something that the record label didn't have any faith in or didn't even believe in. They half-heartedly released the album to pacify us, so we would leave, quit whining and complaining and instead of them really going after 'Black Rock', they just left it alone. It was sort of like when rap music came about, everybody was saying 'nobody's gonna buy that stuff' . But Earth, Wind & Fire recognized it and used the same format and became a hugely successful group."
Harvey Henderson of the Bar-Kays on "Black Rock", the group's third album, released in 1971. ('96)

Chaka Khan (1996)"I think my mother wanted me to sing more so than I did. Because my mother used to force me to sing a lot! When I was younger, she used to try and get me to do talent shows and sing in the school choir. I did sing in the the school choir, but I never got any solos because I wasn’t that confident at that particular time. But my mother always tried to get me to do talent shows and this and that, and I would refuse to do it. I refused. I was like: 'No, only time a person’s gonna catch me out there, out in public, singing, is if they know who I am' and I kept to that (laughs)."
Adina Howard on how she first started singing. (July '97).

"Yeah, I smoke. I'm not an opera singer, OK? I'm a contemporary singer and I believe that my voice and my power comes from another place, I really do. There are of course the physical attributes (that can affect the voice), like if I don't get enough sleep, and so on. I try to take care of myself, but I still smoke cigarettes and I like to drink my occasional wine and nothing's happened yet."
Chaka Khan on smoking and if she ever fears it may affect her voice. (November '96)

Larry Dodson (1989)"He was extraordinary. He was a great writer. He taught me everything I know about writing. He was very focused, some people thought he was obsessive. He really was. The band was all he had. The idea of the Bar-Kays was all that was in his life. He was not married, he had no children, the Bar-Kays was everything."
Larry Dodson of the Bar-Kays on Allen A. Jones, the group's long-time producer, manager, friend and mentor. (1997)

"I got the idea for 'Clean Up Woman' from reading an x-rated magazine. There was a story about this woman who was married to this wealthy guy and she was screwing around with the young guys around the neighborhood and she would hire this young, black girl to baby-sit for her. So, this young black girl did such a good job, and the rich mama was never home, that the kids started calling the black girl mama. Finally, the dad sees how much the kids love this young girl, so he ended up marrying her. At the end (of the article) the woman's talking about 'the black nigger bitch she had hired to do the cleaning up for her that took her fucking man' (laughs). That's what she said."
Clarence "Blowfly" Reid on how he got the idea for Betty Wright's biggest hit "Clean Up Woman" in 1970. (1991)

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